Relating to Pain and Pleasure

Relating to Pain and Pleasure - (3176)

The Work - Pain and Pleasure

The work is always about being over the top of things within ourselves.

Pain and pleasure are two factors that every human being must reckon with.

We usually fall under both of them. The key of the work is not about not feeling pain or pleasure but not being under either of them.

Pain

We are usually under our pain and because we are under our pain we suffer. When we remember the painful past the emotions and sensations of pain rise in us. The injustice brings a bitter taste to our system.

When we are under pain we are a victim, that with time becomes helpless, to the point that we lose the capacity to help ourselves out of the hole we have dug for ourselves.

Pleasure

People fall when they give themselves to pleasure and put themselves under the rule of pleasure. When a person does that they become ruled by 'the more' and that creates restless seeking.

Pain and pleasure are two things that with the benefit of experience and understanding, we should not allow ourselves to fall under.

This is the correct relationship between ourselves and these two factors.

Twins

These two factors exist co-dependently. We can not have one without the other.

If there is pain there is automatically pleasure. They are exactly like life and death. They are twins.

When such twins exist - their dynamic is such that one leads to the other and vice versa. In the case of pleasure, an excess of any pleasure leads to pain, and an excess of pain leads to pleasure.

How is that last thing possible you may ask? Well after feeling so much pain we start to love our pain and our suffering and then we fulfil what master Samael says - the mystique of pain, and for that reason it is so difficult to eliminate egos that have come to love our pain. That is feel pleasure for their pain.

Many such egos have this component in them. They have come to love their pain. Self-compassion is one.

End (3176).

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