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The Many Types of Students - (4775)

Those that Stay a While and Leave

Master Samael said that the Gnostic movement is like a train that many jump on and many jump off. Few are those that stay on the train to the final station.


This section looks at the different types of student that stay on the train for a while and then jump off.


There are those that leave quietly and those that leave with a bang!


Those that stay to learn something and once they've learnt it they leave the train. 


Those that while staying, teach (mostly indirectly) the instructor and some group members an unexpected practical lesson, and then leave. 


Those that come by recurrence and leave by the same recurrence.


Those that come by positive recurrence and leave by a different 'negative' recurrence.


Those that come by themselves and leave because of someone else.


Those that come to heckle and challenge and then leave.


Those that use the group or some of its nicer members until they can and then leave. They seemingly were never a part of the group in their emotions.


Those that feel they 'know' (cup very full) and deserve quicker access to advanced levels. 


Those that are brought along and the one that brought them leaves, while they stay.


Those that shine and leave and those that apparently never shone and leave.


Those that promise they will never leave and do. 


Those that leave quietly with little to no explanation and those that leave explaining (justifying) a lot. 


All those who leave, leave for unhappy reasons. They may be happy to leave but the reason they leave is that they are not happy.


Finally, those that say they will be back but never show again.




Those that Stay

There are always the pillar of support students who have been there from the beginning of the group's formation and continue to be a unfaltering pillar of support.


There are those that stay constant and firm quietly blending into the background.


There are those that are a little challenging.


Those that help a lot and those don't help out much.


Those that have good faith and are still working things out...


There are students who give more and then there are students who give less. 


Those who are sincere and try their best and those who are present for other reasons than themselves.


Those that are present out of loyalty and those that are present because they have nowhere else to go.


Those that love the work and Master Samael (Logos) and are doing their best and putting their best foot forward for the path.


And Then the Lesson

Everyone gives of what they have to give...


It is true that every student has something to give and every student contributes to the overall group  dynamic, identity and energy. 


It is so difficult to tell who gives the most to the overall group energy, because all students give more in other ways and less in other ways. 


There is a wonderful variety of all under the sun...where everyone has a role, are useful and are necessary...


End (4775).

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