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To Extract and to Stop Extracting Payment of a Debt- (5701)

This post is for when we realise that we have a karmic debt with someone, and we are in the position of unknowingly knowlingly wanting to extract payment to cancel the debt.

If we ever find ourselves deliberately for 'some' reason, wanting to extract something from someone, such as pain or suffering, that is by making them deliberately suffer. Where tears, anxiety, stress, problems, fights, stagnation are the terms of payment, then we have a karmic debt with that person and we are owed.

Some debts that we have with others are really huge and now have to be paid not in the same way but over time so as not to destroy the lives of both people.

For example, a person encounters a person who murdered them in a past life. That debt can be cancelled by doing the same. But now because both people are working spiritually, for one life to be taken by anther would be devastating for the spiritual work of both people.

The debt collector managers within us are ill-will and the subconscious. The front-line debt collectors could be anger, pride, lust, fear and jealousy.

So the Divine Law in all its wisdom divides the debt up into manageable installaments and brings the two people into a binding conditions, where they can not be released until the debt has been paid.

Love-hate relationships are a good example of this. Many terrible family relationships between children and parents are examples of this. Many marriages especially where there is physical or emotional abuse are examples of this.

How does one get out of the exchange of pain as a way of cancelling the debt?

To be getting angry all the time is not the way, it only strengthens the cycles or periods of payment and non-payment (relief).

Work intensely with forgiveness and ask the Tribunals of Karma or Cosmic Justice to remove us from the debt payment plan.

Work hard of course, to dissolve the egos that constantly appear, and learn all the lessons related to what we have done wrong in the relationship. 

As soon as payment begins, through another way, we will experience relief says the theory...

Once the plan of extraction of payment for the debt has been taken from us, we may stay or leave depending on how empty the relationship is, says the commonly taught theory.

End (5701).

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