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Talking to or Helping People who are not in Gnosis Like One's Parents - (2172)

Introduction

I have thought about this so many times before, just if my parents or your parents were in Gnosis, how they could benefit. Especially when they get upset and when they face old age.

Gnosis is so deep and broad that it can certainly help. The thing though is that it all depends on the intelligence of the one who delivers it.

The aim of this post is to put forward an idea that has worked for me. It seems to be a lack of love to have this wonderful knowledge and not try the many different ways to help people who truly give a lot to us.

Talking about Dogmas Brings Nothing but Clashes

If one talks about dogmas and beliefs one is going to get nowhere really. This is because people are not going to leave their belief especially if they are older in age.

What happens too often in practice is a clash where the result is that they stop listening and future conversations go the same way.

The person who presents Gnosis has to come from a place of clear understanding.


Talk About the Psychological Human Relationship with God

For me the solution has been to speak to people from this point of view. Especially if the people are religious one can speak to them about eh human relationship one has with God.

Does one trust in God? Does one love God? Would one like to serve God? What are the obstacles that one has within oneself that stop one from coming to trust and love God? Are some of the points that one can open a conversation with.

One can also speak with the wisdom of the consciousness from the psychological work. One really does not have to use the word Gnosis at all but impart words from the consciousness which are universal and touch the consciousness of the those that you are speaking with.

What one learns from the psychological work, one can speak about using a human and neutral terminology to quite often end up with good results.

End (2172).

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